The minute that someone tries to argue against the pro-life viewpoint by means of the "men do not understand the issue and thereby do not have a voice" argument, they are making an argument with profound philosophical implications. Think about what this argument is really saying. At first glance, it seems to be valid. I am not disputing the fact that men and women are differently affected by pregnancy and child-birthing. To argue so would not even be archaic; but would be complete falsehood. Of course men and women experience pregnancy differently: only one can actually carry the child!
This argument is really claiming that experience or potential for a particular experience gives one credibility in an argument, specifically moral authority. By saying that men cannot speak on the issue of abortion, one is arguing that the heart of moral matters lie in the very experience (or, again, the potential to have that experience). I would like to counter-argue that this philosophy does not hold water. Following this philosophy, only children would be able to have a say that child abuse is or isn't wrong. The fact that we even have a term, child abuse, shows that we do not follow this "experiental authority" argument. We have clearly deemed that child abuse is, in fact, abuse, and is, in fact, wrong. It would not make sense for the "victims" or those affected to be the final authority and have the credible voice in the matter- children are some of the most vulnerable members of society anyways.
The thing is, that though abortion may affect women differently than men, to deny men a voice in the abortion debate is to deny another rights that we ourselves are asserting- the right to an opinion and a credible voice. In this case, men are also affected, being in nature co-creators in a human life, and also having a stake in this situation. Women and men come together to create a child, as it is. Why should that man not have a say in what is done to his child? That seems contradictory. Also, being as the child is not an extension of a woman's body as an arm or a leg or a nose is, but being a unique human individual at the genetic level, why should the child not have a say? Since when do we get to decide that though the child is dependent on the mother's body to live for the first nine months and then dependent on the mother's nurture and nutrition (through milk) for a while after birth that the woman gets to decide on the very LIFE of that child?
Following this philosophy, we see that must define human life: is human life a very inherent thing that extends from "womb to tomb"? Or are we allowed to define the inherent worth and right to live or not to live of one by their dependence? One quickly see that this spirals into an argument about the handicapped or disabled who are dependent in different ways, or the elderly who, for reasons due to age or to sickness, lose the ability to be independent.
It gets messy quickly. So let it suffice to say: I think know that ALL human life is inherently and intrinsically valuable and worthy of our respect and our protection. And that, in a nutshell, is why I am PRO-LIFE.
Sunday, April 29, 2012
The Argument of Experience
Posted by Abby at 2:57 PM
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Are you saying that someone who is pro-choice has no morals?
Great question. No, I am not saying that. In this blog post, my aim was to show the philosophical inconsistencies of an argument commonly used to defend the pro-abortion stance. This "experience" argument makes a moral claim and is arguing in favor of morals that can be most legitimately determined by those with experience (or the potential to experience) something. By saying that men cannot have a say in the abortion debate, one is making an argument that values experience as a pre-determining factor for having some sort of moral authority on a matter. I was disputing that as a philosophical premise, but was not saying that someone who is pro-choice has no morals. Rather, I was critiquing and analyzing the philosophy in the spirit of avoiding philosophical pitfalls.
What about a woman who was convicted of murder and claims to be pro life
I am a little confused as to your reply comment- could you rephrase your question for me, please?
If someone was convicted of murder, can they still be sincerely pro-life as it pertains to the unborn? I suspect the answer should be yes, but it seems that this type of person would not have the moral justification. This is way out in left field...I know that :-) Just thinking out loud...
Oh, okay. So, take a person who is found guilty of murder (we are assuming that they are honestly guilty, too) who asserts a pro-life position. I see two distinctions to be made here.
The pro-life stance, as I understand it to be, in the fullest sense of what this position affirms and stands for, means to be FOR and affirming the inherent dignity and worth of all human life. Pro-Life is much more than anti-abortion, and the term anti-abortion, while used often in mainstream media, does not fully describe the pro-life stance. To be against abortion may be part of the pro-life stance, as abortion would be the unjust taking of an innocent human life. However, I would again suggest that to truly be pro-life one sees all human life as valuable and fights for the justice and rights of human life. So I would say that it would indeed be contradictory to be both a murderer and call onself pro-life. On the other hand, there will always be people who possess a kind of pluralism, as I think you have been alluding to. And so it is indeed possible for one to consider themselves pro-life and not see a contradiction between their pro-life indentification and the fact that they committed murder. However, we know that to be a false understanding of the term pro-life, and this person guilty of murder exhibits that they have limited the definition of pro-life in their own sphere to mean simply anti-abortion, or as it pertains to the unborn.
This is a common misconception about the pro-life stance that is only perpetuated through the lexicon mainstream media coverage uses to describe the "real" pro-life movement.
So, I agree with you on this one. A murderer calling themselves pro-life, by true definition of the term pro-life and the current human rights movement associated with it, would not have the moral justification. However, it is, as always, possible to find people who would say this. It does not mean they are right, though I suppose that according to their own self-definition they 'technically' would be. :)
I think this was all well-thought out. I totally agree with everything you said, and say AMEN.
The PLife murderer is just like everyone I've ever met; a human who "misses the mark," transgresses, sins. No matter how hard the person tries.
15 I don’t really understand myself, for I want to do what is right, but I don’t do it. Instead, I do what I hate.
Romans 7:15
and also considering the nature of the battle
17 The sinful nature wants to do evil, which is just the opposite of what the Spirit wants. And the Spirit gives us desires that are the opposite of what the sinful nature desires. These two forces are constantly fighting each other, so you are not free to carry out your good intentions.
Galatians 5:17
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